The Power of compounding!!!

barbierse · Nov 6, 2005

I have been using a software for about 2 months. Basically, this software will find the gap between games and tell you to hit in the middle. I'm making money doing this, but somehow I just think this is too good to be true. You keep hitting in the middle (you don't lose like you're gambling) and the money keep growing up compounding everyday. I'm a big fan of compounding, that's why I'm doing this, but ....Please help if any of you know what I'm talking about. BTW, the website is www.waterboy.riskfreeprofit.com

THECLOSER · Nov 6, 2005

who created the software?

milzey · Nov 7, 2005

seems to be pretty good, r u a represenative...

LEYKIS101 · Nov 7, 2005

So you had to deposit $600 with them? Can you take it out at any time? Can you use the software for a fee without the deposit?

Do a search on "Hedgesyn", sounds a lot like the scam the were running a few years back.

milzey · Nov 7, 2005

so basically it tells you what games to do and where so you can middle it right??

how much does it cost to get the games and not be a represenative

LEYKIS101 · Nov 8, 2005

Barbierse,

So how many books do you need to have accounts with? I would think the $139 monthly charge is hard to overcome with $5-10 scalps, unless you're doing this full time.

Keep us posted as to how it's working for you, sounds interesting.

Kruser6 · Nov 8, 2005

So Barbierse, I am a bit confused. Are you saying that you can deposit money into thier website rather then into a book and they will return it to you with a profit? Can you go into detail with this a little further.

Also, do these scalps just pop up on your desktop whenever they are available?
-And how many books do they use? It could be quite an investment if they used 20+ books?

milzey · Nov 10, 2005

this sounds like a no brainer, so basically if i'm reading correctly...i go to riskfreeprofit.com and sign up and pay $139 a month then they tell me what games to invest and where and i have to have accts with them? r u doing all the sports right now? is there anyway to lose when you go both ways like that what about a tie or something?? im interested and plan on signing up this weekend...if it helps your buddy or you ill say you referred me...:money: :money: :money: :money: :money:

milzey · Nov 10, 2005

my other question is if you have more of a bankroll do you just double your bets to double your profit

on avg how many games do you get to middle a week

Notebook · Nov 10, 2005

I might be interested in signing up from your recommendation but can you give at least one example of a play (or trade) that the software gave you from last night? Just so I can see it with figures using $500 as a trade amount. I just need to be able to put numbers down so I can fully understand it. Know what I mean? Also, there really are 5-8 opportunities to trade on Sundays with there only being 13 or so NFL games? With the software scanning 70 different books there must be some obscure ones that it finds that you don't have an account with, right? What do you do then, just pass on it? Thanks for all the info. Looking forward to hearing back from you.

Notebook · Nov 11, 2005

Oh, one more question...you talked earlier about being a rep vs. not being a rep. You said you were going to try it out further and then decide if you want to be a rep. If I'm reading the website correctly the difference in being a rep is the residual income you can make by signing people up for the software, correct? Do they actually have to become reps as well or just download and pay for the software? Just trying to clarify before I dive in. Thanks!!

Salain · Nov 11, 2005

Please keep it positive - thank you wilheim..

barbierse · Nov 11, 2005

Notebook, thanks for your interested. Here is a good one for NBA 11/10/05

At Sunset Sportsbook Det Piston -2 Even
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"><TD vAlign=center noWrap align=middle>63450</TD><TD align=middle width="10%">2005-11-10 22:46:19.0</TD><TD noWrap><TABLE width=255><TBODY><TR><TD>INTERNET: Straight Bet risk 247 win 247</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD vAlign=top noWrap><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD noWrap><TABLE width=255><TBODY><TR><TD>705 Pistons -2 (EV) risk 247 win 247 (NBA)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD style="CURSOR: hand" onclick="doPrintTicket('63450')" vAlign=center noWrap align=middle>Print</TD></TR><TR class=" betLinesOdd0
"><TD vAlign=center noWrap align=middle>63446</TD><TD align=middle width="10%">2005-11-10 22:39:57.0</TD><TD noWrap><TABLE width=255><TBODY><TR><TD>INTERNET: Straight Bet risk 253 win 253</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD vAlign=top noWrap><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD noWrap><TABLE width=255><TBODY><TR><TD>705 Pistons -2 (EV) risk 253 win 253 (NBA)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD style="CURSOR: hand" onclick="doPrintTicket('63446')" vAlign=center noWrap align=middle>Print</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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</TD><TD class=accountText vAlign=bottom align=left>Detroit Pistons vs Phoenix Suns (+2) for Game</TD><TD class=accountText vAlign=bottom noWrap align=right>+104</TD><TD class=accountText vAlign=bottom noWrap align=right>247.00</TD><TD class=accountText vAlign=bottom noWrap align=right>256.88</TD></TR><TR class=hidden id=pitcher1><TD class=accountText colSpan=2></TD><TD class=accountText></TD><TD class=accountText noWrap align=left>NBA</TD><TD class=accountText align=left colSpan=4><TD noWrap align=left colSpan=4></TD></TR><TR bgColor=black height=1 width="100"><TD colSpan=8></TD></TR><TR class=tableText height=30><TD class=accountText vAlign=top noWrap>50051169-1

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</TD><TD class=accountText vAlign=bottom noWrap>7:48pm

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</TD><TD class=accountText vAlign=bottom align=left>Detroit Pistons vs Phoenix Suns (+2) for Game</TD><TD class=accountText vAlign=bottom noWrap align=right>+104</TD><TD class=accountText vAlign=bottom noWrap align=right>243.00</TD><TD class=accountText vAlign=bottom noWrap align=right>252.72</TD></TR><TR class=hidden id=pitcher2><TD class=accountText colSpan=2></TD><TD class=accountText></TD><TD class=accountText noWrap align=left>NBA</TD><TD class=accountText align=left colSpan=4><TD noWrap align=left colSpan=4></TD></TR><TR bgColor=black height=1 width="100"><TD colSpan=8></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>ix +2 +104

As you can see, I placed $500 on Det -2 to win $500
As the same time, I placed $490 on Phoenix to win $509.6
If Det win, I win $10
If Phoenix win, I win $9.6

Is this all clear to you?

You're absolutely right about there are much more trades daily, I don't have alot of money to put in every single books out there, so I just pass on. A lot of money being loss because I don't have a big capital.

You're also right about being a rep or not. Actually, it does not matter to me about that residual income cause I know I'm not that good of talking people into this. Besides, it take people who has the patient and understand how this work and can do the math of the compouding factor to appreciate the system. Anyway, you can be a rep and all you have to do is have people sign up under your name, pay the monthly fee and you'll start earning that residual income. But I'm not sure how that work cause like I said, I'm not really into that. What I'm interested is the shares in the pool as a member.

Notebook · Nov 11, 2005

I see what you're talking about now - thanks for clarifying. Looks like pretty good software and if its true that it gives you so many plays that you can't do them all, then it would be well worth the $139 month fee. I'm going to listen to the conf. call and if I have any further questions, I'll let you know.

jeckll · Nov 26, 2005

what kind of bankroll do you have and at how many books? seems like youd need a 6 figure bankroll to be able to spread it across enough books and make a decent profit

Notebook · Nov 29, 2005

Well, be careful of this company guys. I signed up, which wasn't a problem and the software looked good and worked fine. After a couple days I found that I wasn't finding many arbitrage opportunities within the books that I had open and funded accounts with. So I decided to cancel until I got my accounts set up properly. I sent the company two different requests to cancel the service so they would issue a credit. No credit to this point. Their policy states that you can cancel service within 7 days of first signing up and they will refund your money. I cancelled on the 6th day and when I didn't receive any confirmation, I again cancelled on the 7th day. Still nothing. I have disputed the charge with my credit card company. So...beware.

Iceman · Nov 30, 2005

Notebook said:
Well, be careful of this company guys. I signed up, which wasn't a problem and the software looked good and worked fine. After a couple days I found that I wasn't finding many arbitrage opportunities within the books that I had open and funded accounts with. So I decided to cancel until I got my accounts set up properly. I sent the company two different requests to cancel the service so they would issue a credit. No credit to this point. Their policy states that you can cancel service within 7 days of first signing up and they will refund your money. I cancelled on the 6th day and when I didn't receive any confirmation, I again cancelled on the 7th day. Still nothing. I have disputed the charge with my credit card company. So...beware.

How much money did you start with? How many books did you have funded? How many HOURS a day did you put into this? All 3 are very important questions that need to be answered

Notebook · Nov 30, 2005

I funded 5 books ranging with around a grand in each one. So a total of $5k capital to start. I was going by the previous posters statement that this was a good starting amount to make some money. I would check for trades for about 6-8 hours per day finding a couple each day that used my books. One main problem that I encountered was the software seemed to be around 30sec-1 min behind real time. For example I would be monitoring pinny's lines and see one change and it didn't come up in the software for about 30 sec or so. By the time the software alerted you to the trade, the odds had changed and it was no longer a positive trade. Anyway, this is still separate from the issue that the company did not refund my money like they said they would. That is the main problem I have.

Iceman · Nov 30, 2005

Oh I understand, not questioning that at all. I was just curious because I was going to get everthing in place to do it like you just stated (around 5 books for 5K). What else did you learn? having a hard time pieceing this together with people, if it is worth it. Could it be very profitable in your opioinion (couple hundred dollars a week profit)? Is it simple to do? Seems like a grind, but that is my expectations. Any more info would be greatly appreciated for I may get involved with this.

Kruser6 · Nov 30, 2005

Iceman, IF any of your questions have not been answered feel free to get in touch with me.

You can find my addy in site promos. IF Barbierse hasn't answered something that you are wanting to know.